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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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please disregard the statement a previous commenter made about being "a lost cause" and that you shouldn't bother reaching out to me.

What I said before "lost cause" was this:

And don't bother trying to give her links or telling her who Lloyd really is. She knows and doesn't care.

That doesn't say what you think it says. I warned people about sending you links about Lloyd or trying to educate you about him. You know all this and chose to go on his channel anyways.

There's only one channel I would say no to and it's more on US political grounds than anything else.

But you'll go live with a man who has bullied, doxxed, threatened, and still threatens many with a litigious and frivolous lawsuit. Did you read what he's suing for? He's snapped back publicly at Marc and Cora and told them they are criminals and would be served soon. You'll go live with a man who has stated to the world he had no mastery of his penis and stand by him as he seriously discusses the issue of CSA. You'll go live with a man who wrote two heartless and abusive letters (one 10 or so pages long) to his wife and the mother of his children, just trashing and abusing her. Did you read the passage in his book about how he fantasised about "girls" serving him at MTS School? Here's the passage from TRA, verbatim:

It was because of such nonsense that my balls were now aching and I could not get sex out of my mind, to the point where I would fantasize about the girls who were assigned to serve our lunches

But you won't go on another channel because of political disagreements? How does having a political disagreement with someone trump this? You seriously think this man is the guy to talk about CSA?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Could he have made her sign a prenuptial agreement entirely in his favor?

The sheer thought of 2007 era Lloyd Evans, fresh out of MTS School and by his own account struggling to work a steady and decent paying job, asking this Croatian pioneer sister to sign a pre-nup is hilarious. Was he afraid Dijana would try to claim his beat down car and lawn mower? The savings account that had £100?

But as slim said, this is Lloyd we're speaking about. You know, the same guy who thinks the Sisak court has jurisdiction over foreign nationals for things said or done outside their borders.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

I'm curious , where did L.and Dijana get married ? In croatia or the U.k ?

It is in his book:

We wed in the registry office at Malinska, a picturesque town on the Croatian coast, on July 14, 2007. After officially tying the knot we had a Witness ceremony on the balcony of a local hotel.

So it was a Croatian marriage both in registration and physically. The question is whether or not they registered their marriage in the UK. If not, that would provide better insight as to what his standing in the UK was as well as his eventual desire to relocate.

I just assumed he closed it to try and hide his assets ahead of a divorce.

It doesn't work that way. Unless Croatia has some medieval divorce laws, anything acquired during the marriage is considered marital property. If he dissolved the company thinking he gets to take all the assets for himself. he can think again. There are records for all of that and the family court magistrate would be none too pleased that he stole significant marital assets and is now claiming to be dead broke for purposes of child support/alimony implications.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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New update on the Ipsilon Media doo.

I haven't heard a rational reason behind closing it other than that his donations were not what he felt they should be and Dijana/Tibor needed to be let go. Okay, but why was it necessary to close the company? There was still a fair amount of donations that were rolling in and he actually was dropping salaries from payroll. Was it because his wife's name was on it as a director?

Something happened last summer which all culminated in his "Aftermath" video. I don't know when the divorce was initiated. Could have been when he moved out considering Croatia's legendary "glacially slow" legal system. But I tend to believe that she was the one who closed the final door on their marriage last summer and filed. It all seemed to happen round then, from the removal of production credits on his videos and him never mentioning her again, which was in contrast to his begging stunts last April where it was Dijana this, Dijana needs a job... Up until then his remarks were that they were separated but the door wasn't closed on a possible reconciliation however unlikely it might have been.

The Aftermath video sounded like Jabba the Hutt was there to settle accounts. Faced with an expensive divorce, complete with child support in line with him making more than Croatia's median salary and her having no job experience, it sounded to me like there were a lot of things going on and he was pushing all of the blame onto the M7, quite unfairly.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

I want to defend Jana and have written and re written my comment get about 10 times and keep contradicting myself in each sentence.

I cannot bring myself to feel the same. Perhaps it is empathy you are feeling because you once found yourself in the same situation as a volunteer. But then the truth came out. Still, Jana is knowingly bringing vulnerable people into Lloyd’s influence and possible/probable financial exploitation. She is putting forward a seriously compromised man as an advocate for CSA. There is quite simply no excuse for this, and this IMO compromises Jana herself.

Say what you will about the likes of O’Donnell and Ortiz, but they made the ethical choice regarding cutting of all ties with him.

Lloyd Evans is a harmful and disgusting pig who is abusing the legal system and slandering all those who appeared on his list as criminals. It’s unfathomable to me that she sits at the side of a man who is at this very moment engaged in a campaign of legal harassment and has a pending lawsuit that is so insane and frivolous that it’s practically impossible to even attempt to make a point by point rebuttal to it.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Who is Jana?

Jana Monteiro - AKA Black Sheep

@ifakenormal on Twitter/X

https://www.janamonteiro.com/

Jana is one of the very few exJW "activists" who has stuck by Lloyd. She is certainly the most public one anyway. When Jabba the Hutt went to the UK in the summer of 2022 after the scandal, she was the only person brave enough to pose for a selfie with him. She's a self-styled writer, a lot like Lloyd. She is the one who took over for Dijana and schedules his interviews. If she is interviewing too, it might have been through her that this elder is coming to the channel.

And don't bother trying to give her links or telling her who Lloyd really is. She knows and doesn't care. Lost cause. Fuck her.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Elder Leaks JW CSA Form

And here is your host, a man who has a prostitute addiction, went to Thailand for some shady encounters, wrote about how “girls” serving him at MTS School had gotten him so hard that he needed to masturbate in a shower afterward, and who has absolutely no mastery over his penis. Enjoy!

This is why many have spoken out and have continued to speak out about this creep.

Sorry but I have no sympathy for these trolls who might suddenly be realizing that they've been taken for a ride by this fat ass

For this reason whatever sympathy I might have had for his wife is somewhat muted. She was there throughout all this time - having her home built for her, countless trips on the expense of others - and then when it all goes to shit, she stays out of it. Not that it was a dumb move, but shit. Everything she has and all the international travel she has enjoyed was because her husband had conned vulnerable people into providing for them.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Wasn't M.Haeck the one that did all the reno.( for free), turning Lloyd in-laws attic into an apartment ?

Yes, it was all in his book. IMO Haeck was instrumental in Lloyd learning to lean on exJWs for everything him and his family could ever want and need.

Haeck invited him to their Croatian getaway. Lloyd supposedly had no money and made sure Haeck knew. Haeck's son and his girlfriend moved out of their room and into his parent's room in order to accommodate Lloyd and Dijana. All meals and other costs were covered by Haeck.

On the way back to Belgium, Haeck asked to come and see where Lloyd lives in Sisak. Lloyd warns him it is a very meager dwelling and most of the time they were downstairs so the in-laws had to stay in their room. At the time the attic was practically unlivable. especially in winter. Haeck purchases building supplies and starts building the inside of the attic. He leaves behind expensive tools for Lloyd and promises to come back and finish.

I believe it was Haeck or his son who also did the basement studio years later.

Haeck's son gets married, and they want Lloyd to officiate. This trip for all three Evans family members is covered. Lloyd officiates in a monk outfit with sandals.

At this time Lloyd released his second exJW song. It was called "Good Things, Bad Things" and Lloyd referred to it as a "hit". Haeck set up a Belgian exJW meetup in a warehouse where Lloyd performed the song to polite applause.

Lloyd and the Haeck men go out drinking in Ghent. They were the ones who found him humping a Christmas tree.

So yeah, Haeck's been their personal Santa Claus. Wonder what he feels/felt about what he did to Dijana, since he knew her personally. Also how he feels now about him using donated funds for hooker holidays.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

"... I dated a sex-worker in Thailand. But this is the thing - that a lot has been said on YouTube where there's not based on anything that I've said and it's not even based on things that Kim Silvio has said. People have just raced to conclusions based on the fact that I went to Thailand..."

He’s either knowingly misrepresenting information to Gold or he had deluded himself into thinking he didn’t already admit to having seen sex workers for 3-4 years and that he had “met” more than one there. What’s problematic for Lloyd was that FB statement on 02.02.22. I don’t have the quote handy, but he essentially said “not that it’s anyone’s business, but the sex workers I met in Thailand were all in their 20s”.

This does two things. One - It lends a lot of credence to the claim the M7 and others made that he went to Thailand for a sex holiday since he speaks of sex workers in the plural. This was no chance meeting with one on Bangla St. after returning from seeing the elephants as he would have you believe.

Two - He says he ‘’met” sex workers. I’m sure he’s taking the literalist route if confronted with that FB post today - as in he met them at the bar but did not pursue it any further. If so, why insist that they were all in their 20s? This is how Lloyd gets caught in a lie. He’s a native English speaker, so none of this was lost in translation, nor was he ignorant of English writing composition and reading comprehension. He knew precisely what he was trying to fend off and at the time it seemed convenient for him to admit to the sex holiday with the silly caveat that all were in their 20s. Lloyd’s problem was that later he went back on that and pushed the narrative he “dated” one sex worker.

He has little understanding of how things work outside what was once his exJW echo chamber. Unlike Lloyd, Gold has a real job, education and credentials as a journalist, formerly of the BBC. If he had a PR agent as he once stated he was looking into getting, they would have probably advised against him going on the Gold show. And had he insisted, he would have been coached to keep to his talking points and not be drawn off them as evidenced by those lengthy soliloquies where he was struggling to sound coherent.

That’s the essence of journalism - they seek out the real story the interview subject is seeking to avoid. Gold did that quite adeptly. A good journalist is calm and collected, and goes out of his way to think you are in control of the interview when it was quite the opposite.

Lloyd set himself up for what had to be his second worst decision behind the livestream. ExJWs come and go, but Gold has 283K subs and this interview is staying up. All unforced errors - it was Lloyd’s decision to do the interview and all the words were his own. It will someday be up to his daughters to decipher what their father meant by dating a sex worker, and being confused, searching for the full story.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Lloyd isn’t going on any high profile interviews anymore and it has to be crushing him inside. Life comes at you fast. One minute you’re the toast of the community taking selfies with Leah Remini. Now you’re going live with a less than 1000 views Christian apologist and getting nothing but shit in the live chat almost 3 weeks out.

I’m a firm believer that the Gold interview was his last stab at salvaging something out of all this. In typical Lloyd fashion, he took a huge dump all over it because it was beneath him to apologise and ask for forgiveness.

Gold seemed to understand this and prompted him for an apology. Lloyd quickly declined and Andrew pressed him. Then in what had to amount to one of the most bizarre quotes to ever come from him, he wouldn’t apologise because it would “weaken the currency” of his supposed apology to his wife.

I say “supposed” because I doubt he ever apologised to her, and definitely not in any meaningful way. Read those letters. Does that sound like someone who was sorry? Even after getting informed that his wife was divorcing him, he was still babbling on about how advantageous an open marriage would have been to both parties.

Imagine that. You are being divorced for infidelities and you attempt to stop it by promising by limiting yourself to prostitutes in Zagreb!

The Gold interview would have been an excellent vehicle for him to put all this behind him had he issued an unequivocal apology. Anyone who gave him shit could have been referred to that video.

He doubled down on the non-apology and sued everyone in an ultimately doomed and embarrassing lawsuit. In his middle age, he’s a lot like his stubborn elder father in more ways than he could ever admit. What a legacy. The Evans male bloodline is going to peter out with these two underemployed assholes.